In this episode I talk with Jeffery Fisher of ROGUE about Creating art for coping, Emotional and Energy gas tanks, and much more. We spoke at length about real first hand world experiences that they have had, and the insight that they can provide. We also discuss our desire to help break the stigma around mental health.

Some of this conversation may be triggering to those battling their mental health so please keep that in mind. We are not licensed mental health professionals, councilors, or therapists. We speak only from our own personal experiences and perspectives.